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for romney right now but the race could change by election day because we haven't had the debates. the media sort of wishful thinking trying to write off romney. i normally do not buy into ideas that the media is on board on one side. this is the exception. this campaign, this campaign season has been especially egregious in terms of them ignoring things that are bad about president obama and those things that mitt romney has done wrong. >> chris: cal, why? >> why? you would have to ask why? my goodness. first of all, these polls we talked about this before on the show. i'm opposed to news organizations doing their own polls and making news from them. what you are going to see about ten days before the election is a lot of story line being, hey the race is tightening because they want to sell newspapers. this is a sophisticated form of fortune telling. i passed by a psychic, let me see who is going to win the election but it's the same approach. >> rick: narrative that gets played out in the media, that it's almost over. if romney doesn't score big in the first debate in denver that it's def
's right, mitt romney getting the win in this first bout of three bouts in the presidential debates after he aggressively went after president obama on the economy, taxes, deficits, healthcare reform, and other domestic policy issues, and of course there were some zingers. listen. >> what we're seeing right now is in my view a trickle down government approach which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams, and it is not working. and the proof of that is 23 million people out of work. >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan, and now five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big bold idea is never mind. peter: both candidates back out on the campaign trail to of course key swing states. the president at a rally here in colorado this morning, then he heads off to wisconsin. governor romney and his running mate paul ryan will be in virginia today. we will be watching the polls to see if romney gets any post-debate bounce. dagen and connell, back to you. connell: peter thanks. still live for us in denver this morning. da
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romney face-to-face. >> all right, george, thank you so much. and we have a footnote for everyone. you and i talked about it last night, about the star of last night's debate, who was not on the stage. we are talking big bird. as jake told us, unda torrent o creative people took to the internet about the bird today, and these were our favorites. will work for food. today is brought to you by the letter u, for unemployed. and this tweet, dregtly from big bird. reminding us he's about 6 years old, quote, my bedtime is usually 7:45, but i was really tired and fell asleep at 7:00. did i miss anything? >>> and, now, we turn and we have breaking news to tell you about tonight. american airlines, grounding planes after three of their planes were forced to land because rows of seats were coming unbolted in mid-air. abc's senior national correspondent jim avila now telling us the latest. >> reporter: diane, american tonight grounded half its fleet of 757s, its domestic long-range workhorse, taken out of service for a second round of faa monitored fixes to prevent passenger seats from becoming d
right, thank you, jake. and what about governor romney and his day? abc's david muir traveling with the governor in virginia. david? >> reporter: diane, great to see you from virginia. mitt romney expected to appear here just moments from now, and beside him, paul ryan, taking a break from his own debate prep to celebrate romney's debate last night. tonight, new questions about whether or not romney is trying to modify his message a bit with that much larger audience. starting onto a different denver stage today, mitt romney, his sons leading the applause, reveling in their father's debate performance. >> the american people last night were given a choice. >> reporter: just how did romney get ahead last night? by aggressively taking on the president, part of the romney strategy, going into the debate. moments like this one. as the two debated the debt, that bipartisan plan that got nowhere in washington. >> but in my view, the president should have grabbed it, if he wanted to make some adjustments to it, take it, go to congress, fight for it. >> that's what we've done. made som
romney would be a great used car salesman, but the policies he's articulating will get us right back into the mess that president obama has been working so hard to dig us out of. >> i suspect many walked away last night feeling a bit confused, maybe a bit bored by the technical language and lack of passion. and they are possibly asking the question around the world that many are, which is why can't these guys get together to hammer out a fiscal solution? because actually they were talking about the details, they didn't seem to be so incredibly so far apart on many of the issues. >> were they? >> i was just thinking just now it is too bad steve israel couldn't go out with an obama mask and substitute for the president. there are a lot of points you are making last night that the president missed. >> what was the strategy? play it safe? >> i'm not sure, but i think a couple things were going on. after the democratic convention a lot of people were saying the president should have taken the bill clinton strategy and really laid out very carefully in a meticulous way the holes in the rom
effective that apology to the 47% is going to be. >> right. michelle, another number mitt romney is not fond of talking about is 7.8%, the new unemployment figure. here is how he spun that into bad news earlier today. listen to this. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. if you just drop out altogether, why, you're no longer part of the employment statistics so it looks like unemployment is getting better. >> i have never seen a man lie with such skill. i mean, that number had been in decline until today. it's the highest it's been since may 2010, and it hasn't been higher since august 2009, and yet he goes out there and he says something that is a blatant untruth. i mean, he's apologized last night for making a mistake or apologized for something on the 47% and then today back to his old ways. here is another lie. >> well, it's necessary. the conventional wisdom has been if the unemployment rate dropped below 8%, then obama was pretty much in the cat bird seat and now it has, and the republicans have
of the rest of the world whereas governor romney believe in peace through strength. >> all right. let's talk about the expectations here, karen. the game from both sides has kicked into high gear over the weekend. i want to remind everybody. take a listen. >> president obama's a very, he's a very gifted speaker. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> we'd expected all along governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any other candidate in history. >> and i think for us to raise the expectations, he's got to do something spectacular. those things don't happen in debates anymore that there's a spectacular event or gaffe. they're too well rehearsed. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous. does the president here, karen, have more to lose than mitt romney? i mean, obviously the polls show that he's ahead. >> i think we're so focused on comparing it to each other. i think we need to be focused o
of the election. >> just to point out right now, the new columbus dispatch poll showing obama at 45%, mitt romney 42%. thanks for coming and taking time to talk with us. we appreciate it. >> thanks and congratulations and best wishes to you. >> thank you. i appreciate that. >>> still ahead this hour, the supreme court's new term. could this be the year marriage equality goes front and center in front of the highest court? >>> and ten years later, what the sole surviving d.c. sniper is saying about the attacks that trzed the nation's capital. s tie for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. >>> now underway at the nation's highest court. the panel of supremes back on the bench this morning for the first time since it's ruling on the universal health care law. their first order of business to ask the justice department to respond to a question from virginia that is challenging that law. meantime the new docket is stack stacked with same sex marriage, affirmati
to happen in this presidential election right now. mitt romney needs to draw the contrast. i think that mitt romney needs to say something along the line, when i was saving the olympics after 9-11, where was barak obama? who do you want? make the decision. this is a country in crisis once again. economic security, energy security, national security. so draw the contrast. i think that's what we tried to do in this ad. >> steve: larry sabato said that ad that you're running now is the most devastating contrast ad he's ever seen before. >> my team will be very happy to have that. now i got to give a trophy or something, i guess. >> eric: colonel, we have to read this statement. this is from mr. murphy, his campaign. he said, quote, allen west is shamelessly attacking him for a mistake he made as a teen-ager, which he had discussed at length in the media as a mistake learned from. >> first of all, no one down in south florida knew about this and had not been discussed. i think it's represencible that they should talk about a contrast when they started off running ads with me stealing money from
'm not talking about that. i'm talking about right now. governor romney put him on his record, and that was his signature achievement. >> i promise you, what they will do, they're going to fire ever nuclear bomb they have. lou: had dirty. is that what you're saying? >> at the end of the day, the fact that the man stood on that stage and look presidential, performed at a high level, kept telling people is the economy. at a solution to fix it. what did they could agree with all the details are not is irrelevant. he came off as presidential. that is the test. 55 million people the watch that are open-minded, a basically benefited immensely 56 were talking about over 60 million people watching that debate. your tuchman 67 percent thought he won according to the cnn poll which is not exactly a ride -- >> that is the consensus. a lot of it was driven by the kind of twitter celebrity. and leftwingers for the most part who were saying they wanted obama to go at bain, the 47% issue, get dirty. as their advice to him. i will say this to you on the economy. consumer confidence right now is moving upward.
and renewed enthusiasm in terms of investing? >> that's right. the romney campaign has been tweeting all day long about how much money they raised. donations were coming in every couple of seconds i think is what the romney campaign calculated because of the performance that mitt romney put in last night, and keep in mind, you were talking about the adjustments, jessica was talking about the adjustments the president's going to make. i get the sense from talking to several folks inside the romney campaign, and most notably the debate sparring partner himself, rob portman, that they are going to be sticking to this idea, this approach of a tough debate prep, intense debate prep. i think we will be seeing mitt romney going back behind closed doors with rob portman on several occasions over the coming days to make sure he is just as sharp for the next debate. i talked to portman about this last night. he's sort of the debate whisperer now. he said oh, no, his work is not finished until these debates are wrapped up. >> i like that. debate whisperer. fascinating to be a fly on the wall in both de
contrast, and i think mr. rency there was right. i mean, governor romney is talking about greater tax cuts and hoping that this time instead of growing deficits is grows jobs, and president obama's talking about a more balanced approach in line with the sort of policy choices and mix of investments and also balanced approaches that -- neil: but, governor, what did you make of the argument that governor romney used? mr. president, if you were for extending all the bush rates a couple years ago, and arguably the gdp was stronger than it was and is now, and you argue that now and then was not the time to do it? then he did catch the president in a, what the, you know what. >> i think the president, the situation he found himself in was he did not want to see taxes go up on people making less than $250,000 a year. he wanted to see and consistency said he would like to continue that level of taxation on people earning less than $250,000. he was running in, however, to a very hard core obstruction deal saying we're not going forward with that if you don't include the millionaires and billionaire
him. >>guest: right. romney has been running a national campaign based on the economy, based on getting obama out of office but we have seen him when he is in ohio or virginia, focus on niche issues like energy. so he seems to be recognizing that this race is going to be determined by those few states. however, his campaign and republicans often tout the national polls that show a tightened race where as the obama campaign has always said the race will be tight nationally but we are look specifically at the states such as virginia, ohio, florida colorado and those states to look at how the campaign is going. >>shepard: you listen carefully to their message and it sounds like the folks lean on defense and foreign policy and they have been going after the president and his team regarding the attack at the embassy. >>guest: absolutely. if you look at the new "washington post" poll, obama is leading on almost every issue. romney only leads on handling the deficit but the two are split on the economy. obama is leading on medicare, health care. people find his international policie
throughout tonight. this evening, in my view, romney needs to put obama on defense right at the beginning, take him to the cleaners, right out of the gate, no wasted time, do what john mccain did not get down four years ago. i hate to say that. this is a choice between tax cuts and tax hikes. you need to make that case. now i want to hear from our panelists in the kudlow caucus. former clinton white house aide, keith boykin. rick lazio, former republican congressman from new york. rick lazio, i begin with you, good evening to you. >> hello, larry. >> this is a gigantic audience, the key issue of our time is still the economy and jobs. so far mitt romney has not been able to make the sale. that's what the polls show. that's why this thing is close. why hasn't he and what's he going to do tonight differently than he's done in the past. >> i think he's going to make the contrast with president obama, why expanding the pie is in the national interest. not redistributing an ever slowing economy but expanding the pie so everybody gets a job that wants a job, people's salaries are rising. i thin
about everyone, from right to left, says that romney won the debate. i gave you a full "a" and i give the president a "c" minus. there was a giant difference between their performance. everyone who was fair was impressed with how romney handled that from going to end. obama was stunned by how well romney was performing. he seemed almost to take a step back and tune out. >>neil: do you think he came in to it is on the clock, the president, to your point he didn't expect this, and he saw little risk in taking on mitt romney and even if romney did well it would not move the needle were and maybe that is what the folks are hoping today. will that be the case? >> they may be hoping that but as word gets out and as the coverage continues of the debate, more people would didn't watch the debate will hear about romney's performance. if they are not if romney or they are undecided they will be intrigued that he took on the president and did as well as they have now heard that he did or will hear they did. the criticism being made and you heard a couple of the obama spokesman making it, that ro
think mitt romney needs this to be that catalyst. >> okay. are you just trying to be right here? when you say they're both right it makes me think you're trying to hedge a bet here. one person said that there is not a make or break moment or they don't expect and that was paul ryan. chris christie said the next day, thursday, will be romney's time to shine because we will all be talking about how he basically hit it out of the park? >> well, you know, chris christie has a babe ruth in him, likes to point to the outfield and put mustache on the hot dog. i don't know that mitt romney is capable of one. but what mitt romney needs to do is begin a real conversation that's months overdue with the american people about why his presidency would be superior for the next four years and this is his last best chance to open and begin a conversation that's three months overdue. >> so michael, let me bring you in. "the washington post" asked folks who will win the debate. 55% said president obama, 31% said mitt romney. what do you think they're basing that on? >> i think they're basing it on past
. >> but 37% -- i'm sorry, 52% in likely swing states right now are siding with president obama. romney at 41%. that's an average of the swing states you point out. many states i believe 30 plus, are voting right now. ohio, i believe tomorrow starts its early voting. when you look at a moment that's supposed to be, michael, a game changer, and the candidate is rehearsing zingers, as reported with "the new york times" what could change the whole momentum in 37 days? haven't we heard already a pluts ra of information -- plethora of information from mitt romney, both vague when it comes to tax loopholes and maybe specifics when he talks about the 47%? >> i don't know that zingers necessarily turn it around. john harwood had a great piece in today's "new york times" talking about how rarely does a debate alter the outcome of a presidential race. so, you know, a good one liner may take -- get people to take notice but i don't think it turns around the momentum. he needs to completely right this ship because ever since the 47%, and the president clinton speech at the debate, the momentum has gone c
, is what he's running on. >> steve, that's absolutely right. to say mitt romney is moving to the middle is a bit overstated. he's just misstating his policies. he's saying i believe something else. teddy kennedy, you're multiple choice. at this point in the election, a hardened electorate, the steadiest race in years, can you say if no, my policies are different than what i said for months and think motors will peel away from obama and the undecided to low information voters not paying attention and may not show up at all, they're going to roll with you because you say, actually, i believe this, when i believe that. especially even the 47% thing, which before he came out right after, he said that was inelegantly stated but that's what i believe. no, that's not what i believe now. who are you? will the real mitt romney please stand up? >> s.e. asked the question about the timing of the rhetorical shift. i would say his base hadn't given him permission to make that shift. the 47% comments are a perfect example. when it came out he did the press conference and reiterated his comments. he s
. >> i get to respond, right? >> mitt romney was able to beat his republican challengers with tough rebuttals and good lines. he's been prepping extensively for the debate tomorrow night. is that a good thing or bad thing? does he run the risk coming across too rehearsed? >> the fact they are spending eight days in debate camp is unprecedented, no question about that. the danger of that is you overprogram the guy to the point where he gets on that stage and he is in some invisible straitjacket. that's the last thing they need. bill clinton said something smart about debates. they are like jazz. there is a melody you have to play, but you have to be able to imp improvi improvise, as well. if you're too rigid, you don't hear the opportunity to riff. >> there is a rich history and not all of them involve what the candidate said rather than what they did. when president bush was checking his watch. the cut-aways are so pivotal to see what type of response the other candidate is having. the reaction, that is. both sides need to play this cool, correct? >> they sure do. that is a great qu
, so mitt romney is within striking distance right now but there's no doubt that 47% comment did hurt him. >> chris cizilla, a decision today in pennsylvania, a legal decision. >> yep. >> which could have a big impact because if pennsylvania ever were going to be in play, now it will not according to what the republican hopes had been. this was the voter i.d. law and struck down by a judge, said there's no way to get voter i.d.s to so many people in time for election day. >> right. this was always i think because as you point out, a narrow timeline, five weeks to the day from the election, but what this does is it does not put that strict voter i.d. law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we
of the hour, we are watching two events expected for this hour. campaign events for mitt romney and the president. we're taking a peek right now. president obama will speak at this campaign event at george mason university there in fairfax, virginia. mitt romney is going to be in avingdon later as well. our power panel. america hiring now. what it means for the presidential race and what are the stakes for the big debate between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan? >>> and wooing the vets out there. why the president who killed bin laden is struggling with that voting bloc? i get the opportunity to talk with the man enlisted to get vets to switch sides, the vice president's son, beau biden. is 7.8% unemployment the real october surprise? we want to know what you think about that. tweet me or find me on facebook, thoma thomasarobertsmsnbc. and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more
reforming immigration right away, turning around the economy, changing the tone in washington. romney wants and needs to use those words against him in a debate to paint a picture of a presidency that has not been a success and make the case there needs to be change. so far he's not successfully prosecuted that case and i think the debate is best and maybe last chance to effectively make it to create more of an opportunity for him to talk about how things would be different under a romney administration. >> and the next year in 2009, on the today program he said give me three years or else i'm out of here. take a look at this. >> right. >> if i don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition. >> so he said it himself. that -- >> right. >> the voters would be judging him in three years as to whether he achieved it. >> on that quote on the economy and those other quotes from earlier in the presidency he promised to get unemployment down, certainly down below 8% by election day. that's not going to to be achieved and where republicans are trying to hit him
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certainly are up for grabs because mitt romney has squandered a serious purchase on his right wing constituency, gotten through paul ryan, and now i think his wife is saying the kind of mental toughness that obama has displayed may be elusive for him. paul ryan, on the other hand, is trying to say inarticulate? i don't think mitt romney said he was inarticulate -- >> he said he was being inelegant. that's different than inarticulate. >> despite his mental fragility, romney is going to be prepared. "the new york times," romney's team has clon cluded that debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers that he has memoried and have been practicing on aides since august. those lucky aides. >> here how governor perry was trying to have a moment and he couldn't remember the three agencies that he wanted to cut? i mean, the thing about trying to practice, you know, certain words and phrases that you intend to say is, a, making sure that you use them or deploy them at the right moment, and then, b, making sure you actually remember the whole thing and that
high, romney reminded a rally last night with fireworks and trace adkins that the president promised his stimulus gets unemployment lower than it is. >> he said right now, we would be at 5.4 #% unemployment. >> romney pounded biden for stating the administration's goal yesterday of a trillion dollar tax hike on those earning more than 200,000 or $250,000. >> they have been squeezed and buried. >> he did not talk about the 47% who don't pay income taxes expect a handout. he renounced the statement last night once and for all. >> completely wrong, and i absolutely believe my life has shown i care about 100%. >> they hope the remarks put the matter behind him, but to prevent that, democrats spent today announcing new talking points to keep it alive. lou? lou: thank you very much. carl cameron, chief political correspondent. joining us for more on this final month before the election and what changed since the debate, carl rove joins us, the head of the american cross roads, former adviser to president bush. good to have you here. start with, first of all, that pempsz. you and i have not
reach the high level or that bar. that is what he is trying to do. look, if romney does his job right, he will keep the president, force him to be defensive about his record and the massive unemployment, and the people that is given up looking if work, about the debt and obamacare, the massive amounts of spending. >>trace: sherry, the problem is, the problem with that, he will get the president on defensive and he will go after him and you hear a lost pundits say, you know what he needs it do he needs to go on offense and score points. rather than putting the president on his heels he needs to promote his sell. >> what we saw in the primaries he is a gentleman, letting everyone have their 15 minutes of fame, like colleagues in disagreement. he cannot do that, he has to bring his best game and be strong and be aggressive. he has to talk about obama's record saying what he would do differently and what he stands for. he has to keep obama on defensive. you say 93 percent of the people say they will watch the debates. they written. most people will hear the one linears and the outtakes. t
of a warning to you. >> i will not gloat. i will never gloat. >> you may be right and that's okay. romney took a machete and lifted newt gingrich's head off. and later on romney took maybe a different cleaner machete and took rick santorum's head off. obama on the other hand has been surrounded by doughy psycho fans, he hasn't been in any hand to hand combat. he hasn't had any debating experience, he's gone soft. that's why romney might just pull a real upset here. >> i'm not playing a game, i'm being very honest with you, i these president obama does great in front of the teleprompter, and i'm biting my nails over this. now that having been said -- >> he's likable. >> but this notion of national polling numbers is a farce. this election is going to be decided in the swing states. obama has a nine point lead in ohio? you guys are suggesting that the debate is going to change everything. >> to larry says romney has a machete and he's taking heads off in the primary debate. you say there's a small group of undecided voters that romney still needs to capture. i'm not hearing from the romney peopl
seal song tonight, what a heavy duty piece of hardware can do on the open i am harris falker . right now governor mitt romney about to speak in the balts ground state. we'll dip in for a bit and watching for that. for now a little background on the sunshine state. in the past eight presidential election florida voted republican and six of them democrat in two. florida chose the winner in 7 of the last eight races. there are 29 electoral votes at stake. carl cameron is traveling and governor mitt romney about to take the stage and the phone this weekend. >> several thousand gathered where mitt romney will make the first event of the day . the crowd is growing with every passing minute. he did debate preparations today and a lot of phone banking done across the country with two million contacts with new republican voters. since the debate they raised 12 million and he's trying to press gop thinks is his advantage. particularly domestically in terms was tax policy. this is how mr. mitt romney after president obama and the vice president joe bide boid for his suggestion that yes, indeed
, six in ten found the debates somewhat important or not at all. >> mitt romney's campaign called the debate a restart of the campaign. right now, the republican presidential nominee trails president obama by 3% of likely white voters. that is within the polls margin of error. the president leads by seven points among all registered voters. >>> you can watch tonight's debate here on nbc 4. nbc news live team coverage begins at 9:00. that brings us to our poll question. will you watch tonight's debate? let us know on news 4 today facebook. >>> after a foggy morning, it's turning really humid, really humid. >> it feels more like august out there. hey, tom, good morning. >> we are going to call it augtober, not october. we have a live view from the camera. a few patches of blue over the potomac. a few patches of sunshine breaking out. here is the view over space. the morning fog is dissipating. there's quite a bit of cloudiness rolling through the area. a lot of sun now. southern maryland, they have a lot of sun there. it's steamy and warm. cloudiness west of i-95 into the mountains.
realize this is the first time that we have ever agreed on anything? >> you know what, this is the right approach to go, larry. i think that mitt romney has opened up an avenue to pick up in the polls here. this plan is evolving into a flat tax. this one piece has legs to it. it has been out an hour. we can't really say. but what about the enormous cu s s in tax rates. that is kind of tough. when you cut tax rates to 22% and you pay for it by raising taxes by $2 million then we have a problem. that is a fair point. but let's look at somebody you who makes an income of $80,000. that perp gperson gets a big deduction off of his income. solar so, larry, it is something to fix this tax system. >> can i weigh in on this? >> here is the problem i have. i think this is going to get down to $140,000, $120,000 that was the number that paul ryan floated today. things that trouble me. i don't want middle class taxes to go up at all. so i'm worried about not just the mortgage deduction, the kiddy credit, health care deductions and earned income tax credits and i'm a little concerned, i would have to
while in office than were lost, but mitt romney points out correctly, they are not the right quality. no, this is not morning in america. it's also not a disaster. >> ethan, jump in here. are you encouraged? >> i am. i totally agree with ali. mitt romney's been saying that we've been having x month of unemployment above 8%. he can't that anymore. on top of that, the president can say he's created over a million private sector jobs, so he has some new powerful rhetorical arrows that are in his quiver. >> when i saw this today, i thought this fits perfectly into this narrative of a country that's divided because it's a little bit good news. not a lot, and it leaves everybody with room to argue. >> symbolically, it was a victory for the white house to get that unemployment rate under 8% along with just about everybody else. i predicted that would be the key to obama winning re-election, but objectively, if you look at the numbers, there are some real problems with the number of people who have dropped out of the labor force. you're comparing it to reagan, morning in america, you compare the
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